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Migrating project from Synergy 6.5 to RTC


Mickey Roash (9021615) | asked Apr 23 '11, 5:19 p.m.
Hi ,

We are plan to migrate from Synergy Cm 6.5 projects to RTC .
our project structure include :
220 directories in the root
70,000 objects ( source files,Visual studio files, )

currently the we do not share any projects with others group.
What is the correct structure I should migrate this project to RTC ?
Dose each of 220 root directories should be components ?
Can I do one component for all project ?

Thanks,
Mickey

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Geoffrey Clemm (29.3k23035) | answered Apr 23 '11, 8:44 p.m.
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Normally, you'd put multiple related projects into a component.

What matters more than how many total components you have, is how many
components you would need to load into a workspace for development or a
build. In particular, 220 components in a workspace is more than I'd
normally recommend (largely because of the impact on the usability of
the GUIs that manipulate those components).

Conversely, I'd normally recommend fewer than 70,000 objects
(files/directories) in a single component. Is there some natural
grouping of the projects that would keep the component size below 50,000
objects?

Cheers,
Geoff

On 4/23/2011 5:23 PM, mickey_roash wrote:
Hi ,

We are plan to migrate from Synergy Cm 6.5 projects to RTC .
our project structure include :
220 directories in the root
70,000 objects ( source files,Visual studio files, )

currently the we do not share any projects with others group.
What is the correct structure I should migrate this project to RTC ?
Dose each of 220 root directories should be components ?
Can I do one component for all project ?

Thanks,
Mickey

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Mickey Roash (9021615) | answered Apr 29 '11, 7:29 p.m.
Hi Geoff,

I want to correct my input ,we have 62 directories in the root and 220 Synergy projects

After thinking about it for a while , some of the project are not necessary for build our executable and they can set to different component,
this mean we can decrease the objects that developers need to 40,000 .
Is that acceptable to have in one component ?
What is the impact having many objects in one component (taking in account that the RTC Server will not hosted in local site) ?

Can we have even 3~5 components and still keeping the same directories hierarchy as we have today?


Thanks,
Mickey


Normally, you'd put multiple related projects into a component.

What matters more than how many total components you have, is how many
components you would need to load into a workspace for development or a
build. In particular, 220 components in a workspace is more than I'd
normally recommend (largely because of the impact on the usability of
the GUIs that manipulate those components).

Conversely, I'd normally recommend fewer than 70,000 objects
(files/directories) in a single component. Is there some natural
grouping of the projects that would keep the component size below 50,000
objects?

Cheers,
Geoff

On 4/23/2011 5:23 PM, mickey_roash wrote:
Hi ,

We are plan to migrate from Synergy Cm 6.5 projects to RTC .
our project structure include :
220 directories in the root
70,000 objects ( source files,Visual studio files, )

currently the we do not share any projects with others group.
What is the correct structure I should migrate this project to RTC ?
Dose each of 220 root directories should be components ?
Can I do one component for all project ?


Thanks,
Mickey

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Manoj Panda (39336256) | answered Apr 30 '11, 4:39 a.m.
JAZZ DEVELOPER
Hi,
i wonder that do RTC has the facilty for migration from synergy with history. if not then i beilive you are planning only the latest file?? i am not sure but i would definitely like to know your plan in details because i am on the same boat.

Thanks

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Geoffrey Clemm (29.3k23035) | answered Apr 30 '11, 12:11 p.m.
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The main advantage of loading all your directories into one component is
that you can freely move files and folders anywhere within the component.

The main advantage of creating multiple components is that you can
create new configurations by selecting specific baselines of each component.

WRT keeping your same directory structure, as long as you add some
number of your 62 directories into the top level of each component, it
will be reasonably easy to recreate your current directory structure in
your file area sandbox (both in manually loaded developer workspaces,
and in automatically loaded build workspaces).

Cheers,
Geoff


On 4/29/2011 7:38 PM, mickey_roash wrote:
Hi Geoff,

I want to correct my input ,we have 62 directories in the root and 220
Synergy projects

After thinking about it for a while , some of the project are not
necessary for build our executable and they can set to different
component,
this mean we can decrease the objects that developers need to 40,000
..
Is that acceptable to have in one component ?
What is the impact having many objects in one component (taking in
account that the RTC Server will not hosted in local site) ?

Can we have even 3~5 components and still keeping the same directories
hierarchy as we have today?


Thanks,
Mickey


gmclemmwrote:
Normally, you'd put multiple related projects into a component.

What matters more than how many total components you have, is how
many
components you would need to load into a workspace for development
or a
build. In particular, 220 components in a workspace is more than
I'd
normally recommend (largely because of the impact on the usability
of
the GUIs that manipulate those components).

Conversely, I'd normally recommend fewer than 70,000 objects
(files/directories) in a single component. Is there some natural
grouping of the projects that would keep the component size below
50,000
objects?

Cheers,
Geoff

On 4/23/2011 5:23 PM, mickey_roash wrote:
Hi ,

We are plan to migrate from Synergy Cm 6.5 projects to RTC .
our project structure include :
220 directories in the root
70,000 objects ( source files,Visual studio files, )

currently the we do not share any projects with others group.
What is the correct structure I should migrate this project to RTC
?
Dose each of 220 root directories should be components ?
Can I do one component for all project ?


Thanks,
Mickey


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Geoffrey Clemm (29.3k23035) | answered Apr 30 '11, 12:13 p.m.
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR / FORUM MODERATOR / JAZZ DEVELOPER
A Synergy Synchronizer (based on the technology used for the ClearCase
Synchronizer) is under development. Stay tuned for details on
functionality and projected release date.

Cheers,
Geoff

On 4/30/2011 4:53 AM, manoj.panda wrote:
Hi,
i wonder that do RTC has the facilty for migration from synergy with
history. if not then i beilive you are planning only the latest file??
i am not sure but i would definitely like to know your plan in details
because i am on the same boat.

Thanks

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Mickey Roash (9021615) | answered May 03 '11, 12:29 p.m.
A Synergy Synchronizer (based on the technology used for the ClearCase
Synchronizer) is under development. Stay tuned for details on
functionality and projected release date.

Cheers,
Geoff

On 4/30/2011 4:53 AM, manoj.panda wrote:
Hi,
i wonder that do RTC has the facilty for migration from synergy with
history. if not then i beilive you are planning only the latest file??
i am not sure but i would definitely like to know your plan in details
because i am on the same boat.

Thanks


Dose Synergy Synchroniser is migration tool ?
Can I used it for migrating my last development release to RTC stream ?

Thanks,
Mickey

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scott herzinger (1367) | answered May 03 '11, 4:51 p.m.
Hi all,

I am also involved in migrating from Synergy 6.5 to RTC. Maybe we should form a support group. Or, more realistically, a separate forum thread, if there are enough to reach critical mass. I would be happy to share what we're learning along the way, and hopefully also learn from what others are doing.

We've got a lot of code in Synergy 6.5, with a lot of baselines and individual object history. We don't need everything migrated over to RTC, but we do need a lot, in order to investigate and resolve issues that come up across different Synergy releases (i.e. branches). I am interested in knowing how others are approaching the history migration challenges.

Regards,
Scott

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Geoffrey Clemm (29.3k23035) | answered May 03 '11, 11:12 p.m.
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Because the Synergy Synchronizer is based on the ClearCase Synchronizer
technology, you can get an idea about what kind of functionality the
Synergy Synchronizer is likely to provide by reading up on the ClearCase
Synchronizer (provided in the RTC on-line help documentation).
But note that the Synergy Synchronizer may drop some ClearCase
Synchronizer features, and may add new features, so this is just to give
you an idea of what kind of functionality is likely to be available.

Cheers,
Geoff

On 5/3/2011 12:38 PM, mickey_roash wrote:
gmclemmwrote:
A Synergy Synchronizer (based on the technology used for the
ClearCase
Synchronizer) is under development. Stay tuned for details on
functionality and projected release date.

Cheers,
Geoff

On 4/30/2011 4:53 AM, manoj.panda wrote:
Hi,
i wonder that do RTC has the facilty for migration from synergy
with
history. if not then i beilive you are planning only the latest
file??
i am not sure but i would definitely like to know your plan in
details
because i am on the same boat.

Thanks


Dose Synergy Synchroniser is migration tool ?
Can I used it for migrating my last development release to RTC stream
?

Thanks,
Mickey

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Madhu Prabhu (981114) | answered Sep 27 '12, 1:46 p.m.
How did this migration of project(s) from Synergy 6.5 to RTC work out? There was no update as to success/issues/workarounds and I would like to know if it was done with the Synergy Synchroniser tool and would appreciate an update.

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Deepanchakravarthy Murugesan (11) | answered Nov 07, 2:04 a.m.

 Hi All,


Any solution on migrating synergy source code to RTC.
How to handle the history/baseline migration from Synergy to RTC.

Thanks
Deepan

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