RTC and WebSphere Business Modeler

Laura,
sorry for tha late answer.
Downloaded and install a Modeler Advanced 6.1.2.
This one is based on Eclipse 3.2.2 whereas RTC expects Eclipse 3.3.2.
So I guess this is not possible "out of the box".

Did not manage to try it myself, but you could imagine:
- install Eclipse 3.3.2 (or 3.4.1)
- install the Modeler on top this Eclipse (unless this is for some
reason not possible)
- install the RTC Client on top this install.

Eric.


lauraventurini a crit :

Hello.
Does anybody have experience of integration between RTC and WebSphere
Business Modeler 6.1.2?
Thank you
Laura

Hello.
Does anybody have experience of integration between RTC and WebSphere Business Modeler 6.1.2?
Thank you
Laura

I had luck doing the following, using IBM Installation Manager:

Installed WBM 6.2 from scratch
Installed RTC 1.0.1 client into "existing package group" of WBM 6.2
Launch WBM and access RTC perspectives and views

Hello.
Does anybody have experience of integration between RTC and WebSphere Business Modeler 6.1.2?
Thank you
Laura

I had luck doing the following, using IBM Installation Manager:

Installed WBM 6.2 from scratch
Installed RTC 1.0.1 client into "existing package group" of WBM 6.2
Launch WBM and access RTC perspectives and views

Yes, that worked for me as well. But, the problem I have recognized was that there was completely missing the "Team" option within the WBM project explorer and therefore therefore there was missing the key feature throught which are integrated Eclipse based data with RTC repository - to store WBM projects under the source control of RTC.

Does anybody have relevant experience?

Zd.

But, the problem I have recognized was that there was completely missing the "Team" option within the WBM project explorer and therefore therefore there was missing the key feature throught which are integrated Eclipse based data with RTC repository - to store WBM projects under the source control of RTC.

If you open the Project Explorer view (as opposed to the modeler's default Project Tree view) you will find the Team submenu with the ability to share your project.

On the other hand. We encounter problems with the way that changes are discovered. RTC appears to use the file system to determine if something was changed. WBM however does not instantly write changes to the disk. It appears to keep changes in its own repository. By pressing Refresh in the Navigator view it shows the changes in the Pending Changes view.

When changes are accepted in your workspace you will not see the changes in, for example, your process model until you restart your workspace since RTC writes the changed file to disk while WBM doesn't pick them up automatically.

Has anyone else encountered this and came up with a solution?

Regards.

emiel wrote:

zboruvkawrote:
But, the problem I have recognized was that there was completely
missing the "Team" option within the WBM project explorer
and therefore therefore there was missing the key feature throught
which are integrated Eclipse based data with RTC repository - to
store WBM projects under the source control of RTC.

If you open the Project Explorer view (as opposed to the modeler's
default Project Tree view) you will find the Team submenu with the
ability to share your project.

On the other hand. We encounter problems with the way that changes are
discovered. RTC appears to use the file system to determine if
something was changed. WBM however does not instantly write changes
to the disk. It appears to keep changes in its own repository. By
pressing Refresh in the Navigator view it shows the changes in the
Pending Changes view.

When changes are accepted in your workspace you will not see the
changes in, for example, your process model until you restart your
workspace since RTC writes the changed file to disk while WBM doesn't
pick them up automatically.

Has anyone else encountered this and came up with a solution?

Regards.

WebSphere Business Modeler team support has a custom layer that maps its
concepts (business items, business processes, etc...) with real
artifacts where in many cases are different section within the same
artifact. It is not as easy as just use plain artifact source control
(using team from Project Tree view).

I think to use RTC with WBM we should wait until WBM develop that custom
layer for RTC as it did for CVS and Clear Case.

Regards,

Chemi.

"I think to use RTC with WBM we should wait until WBM develop that custom
layer for RTC as it did for CVS and Clear Case."

Does anybody know if that happened allready?