Jazz Forum Welcome to the Jazz Community Forum Connect and collaborate with IBM Engineering experts and users

Eclipse Client progress bar: percentage of estimated items

Hi All,
We created a release plan for one of our releases, and we started to add some user stories there, estimating them using story points (which is our complexity attribute). After a while, we realized that the progress bar for the release plan always shows the label "Estimated 100%", whether we have some user stories without estimation (I mean, 0 pts, assigned by default by the tool when a user story is created).

I made a little research and found the same in the articles http://jazz.net/library/article/197 (see the image under "Release Planning" section) and http://jazz.net/library/article/201 (again, see the image under "Plan Attributes" section).

Is there any way to indicate RTC which value means "Story Not Yet Estimated", so the quality of planning is reflected in the progress bar, in the "Estimated: x%" label?

Thanks in advanced!

0 votes



4 answers

Permanent link
Hi,

if I am not mistaken the estimation really refers to planned work in child tasks (execution items). It is really helpful when starting to implement. The percentage gives you an indicator on how reliable your estimations and load displays might be.

To prioritize, rank and estimate Stories you could use the ranking view. A blue decorator "This item has not yet been ranked" indicates it should be prioritized and estimated.

Also by convention you could say 0 story points is not estimated.

Hope this helps.

Ralph

Hi All,
We created a release plan for one of our releases, and we started to add some user stories there, estimating them using story points (which is our complexity attribute). After a while, we realized that the progress bar for the release plan always shows the label "Estimated 100%", whether we have some user stories without estimation (I mean, 0 pts, assigned by default by the tool when a user story is created).

I made a little research and found the same in the articles http://jazz.net/library/article/197 (see the image under "Release Planning" section) and http://jazz.net/library/article/201 (again, see the image under "Plan Attributes" section).

Is there any way to indicate RTC which value means "Story Not Yet Estimated", so the quality of planning is reflected in the progress bar, in the "Estimated: x%" label?

Thanks in advanced!

0 votes


Permanent link
Hi Ralph,
Thanks for the response

I have to say that I thought the same, that this bar might also be reflecting the quality of estimation considering just execution items. So I tried also adding execution items (Tasks) to some of the stories, and to leave those items without estimation. But nothing changed... the progress bar, in the release plan, is still showing the "Estimated: 100%" label.

In addition, when you only have stories in the release plan (without execution items), the bar also informs that 100% of the items are estimated, which might be a little bit confusing.


Hi,

if I am not mistaken the estimation really refers to planned work in child tasks (execution items). It is really helpful when starting to implement. The percentage gives you an indicator on how reliable your estimations and load displays might be.

To prioritize, rank and estimate Stories you could use the ranking view. A blue decorator "This item has not yet been ranked" indicates it should be prioritized and estimated.

Also by convention you could say 0 story points is not estimated.

Hope this helps.

Ralph

Hi All,
We created a release plan for one of our releases, and we started to add some user stories there, estimating them using story points (which is our complexity attribute). After a while, we realized that the progress bar for the release plan always shows the label "Estimated 100%", whether we have some user stories without estimation (I mean, 0 pts, assigned by default by the tool when a user story is created).

I made a little research and found the same in the articles http://jazz.net/library/article/197 (see the image under "Release Planning" section) and http://jazz.net/library/article/201 (again, see the image under "Plan Attributes" section).

Is there any way to indicate RTC which value means "Story Not Yet Estimated", so the quality of planning is reflected in the progress bar, in the "Estimated: x%" label?

Thanks in advanced!

0 votes


Permanent link
Hi,

I just checked. I am not sure this is a bug but in the release plan it shows 100% whatever I do too.

It is different in the iteration plans. The estimation grows in direction of 100% if you assign efforts to execution items. Top Level Items seem to have no effect to the estimation.....

If you find that strange, why not look if there is a work item already for it and if not create one?

Ralph

Hi Ralph,
Thanks for the response

I have to say that I thought the same, that this bar might also be reflecting the quality of estimation considering just execution items. So I tried also adding execution items (Tasks) to some of the stories, and to leave those items without estimation. But nothing changed... the progress bar, in the release plan, is still showing the "Estimated: 100%" label.

In addition, when you only have stories in the release plan (without execution items), the bar also informs that 100% of the items are estimated, which might be a little bit confusing.

0 votes


Permanent link
Hi Ralph,
I was aware that within an iteration the progress bar was showing the correct information.
The issue appeared when we was presenting the tool to product managers, who are not involved in sprints but in release planning and management. So, release plans and product backlogs are the assets they would use to track progress.

I've opened a defect to the RTC team, https://jazz.net/jazz/web/projects/Rational%20Team%20Concert#action=com.ibm.team.workitem.viewWorkItem&id=114065.

In addition, I'm considering to add an enhancement item to include an estimated percentage but that looks just for plan items (user stories), to know the percentage of them which are not estimated yet.

Anyway, thanks for the support and prompt feedback!

Hi,

I just checked. I am not sure this is a bug but in the release plan it shows 100% whatever I do too.

It is different in the iteration plans. The estimation grows in direction of 100% if you assign efforts to execution items. Top Level Items seem to have no effect to the estimation.....

If you find that strange, why not look if there is a work item already for it and if not create one?

Ralph

Hi Ralph,
Thanks for the response

I have to say that I thought the same, that this bar might also be reflecting the quality of estimation considering just execution items. So I tried also adding execution items (Tasks) to some of the stories, and to leave those items without estimation. But nothing changed... the progress bar, in the release plan, is still showing the "Estimated: 100%" label.

In addition, when you only have stories in the release plan (without execution items), the bar also informs that 100% of the items are estimated, which might be a little bit confusing.

0 votes

Your answer

Register or log in to post your answer.

Dashboards and work items are no longer publicly available, so some links may be invalid. We now provide similar information through other means. Learn more here.

Search context
Follow this question

By Email: 

Once you sign in you will be able to subscribe for any updates here.

By RSS:

Answers
Answers and Comments
Question details

Question asked: May 05 '10, 5:29 p.m.

Question was seen: 7,237 times

Last updated: May 05 '10, 5:29 p.m.

Confirmation Cancel Confirm