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question asked: Sep 24 '09, 6:48 p.m.
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Gary Mullen-Schultz (287●2●55●36) | asked Sep 24 '09, 6:48 p.m.
Right now, the ALM support within RTC pretty much ends at the build.

I have a customer wondering whether it will be extended to enable application deployment. I know RTC supports Build Forge, which has RAFW and other deployment tooling. He was interested in having that "flow" be included as part of the RTC process itself: a deployment role (like "buildmeister"), perhaps an approval process for deployment, etc.

Thanks for any thoughts or ideas.

Gary

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Murad Korejo (26●1●9●9) | answered Jul 19 '10, 4:18 p.m.
I'm also wondering if anyone has successfully automated deployment using RTC? Any updates on this topic?

Right now, the ALM support within RTC pretty much ends at the build.

I have a customer wondering whether it will be extended to enable application deployment. I know RTC supports Build Forge, which has RAFW and other deployment tooling. He was interested in having that "flow" be included as part of the RTC process itself: a deployment role (like "buildmeister"), perhaps an approval process for deployment, etc.

Thanks for any thoughts or ideas.

Gary
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Martha (Ruby) Andrews (3.0k●4●43●51) | answered Jul 20 '10, 6:59 p.m.
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If you do not get a reply here, you may consider also asking in the IBM BuildForge forum:
http://ibmforums.ibm.com/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=2100

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I'm also wondering if anyone has successfully automated deployment using RTC? Any updates on this topic?

Right now, the ALM support within RTC pretty much ends at the build.

I have a customer wondering whether it will be extended to enable application deployment. I know RTC supports Build Forge, which has RAFW and other deployment tooling. He was interested in having that "flow" be included as part of the RTC process itself: a deployment role (like "buildmeister"), perhaps an approval process for deployment, etc.

Thanks for any thoughts or ideas.

Gary
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Jirong Hu (1.5k●9●295●258) | answered Nov 17 '11, 8:52 a.m.
OK, I want to ask the same question: by now, does RTC support Deployment Automation, or if people ask this question, how shall we answer?

My understanding is no, but your build script can do anything you want, e.g. call your deployment script or even testing script. But I am not sure what they really want by this "Automation".

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Jirong
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Jirong Hu (1.5k●9●295●258) | answered May 23 '13, 11:49 a.m.
To add more confusion:

1. IBM just brought this company which focuses on build and deployment automation. http://www.urbancode.com/html/


So my question is still the same: what does IBM wants us to do for the deployment automation?

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Jirong
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Sterling Ferguson-II (1.6k●10●288●273) | answered May 23 '13, 1:03 p.m.
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Jirong Hu commented May 30 '13, 3:29 p.m.

I actually finished watching the playback! Unfortunately, I didn't get anything useful from that webcast. 


My question is same as the the first question being asked during the webcast: does IBM has a DevOps tool set?

My understanding is NO. There isn't. For more than a decade I am working on IBM Rational tools, there never been a time IBM has a complete solution for this "continuous delivery". IBM brought tools from everywhere which doesn't work together. e.g. at CCCQBF time, there is no binary storage system, BF is too generic, so most of organization are using open sources such as CruiseControl and Maven. Today, RTC is great, but still there is no good build and deployment tool. Now IBM brought uDeploy, but how to integrate?


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Jirong Hu (1.5k●9●295●258) | answered May 30 '13, 3:35 p.m.
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Show me some vision called "SmartCloud" is not going to help my current client, since 99% of my SCM clients in has nothing to do with Cloud.

Jazz build engine can't even support project dependencies, how can that be used for an enterprise? And then you give me BuildForge, and now AnthillPro. Give me a bunch of separated tools is not going to help us. What we need is a set of tools will work for small, medium, and large companies, one set for small, one set for medium and one set for large.

At this moment, what's is the complete solution from IBM to do the continuous delivery? Can somebody describe it to me?

Thanks
Jirong

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