Licensing RTC for a small company

Daniel Reinhardt

(3●1●3) Mar 24 '13, 5:48 a.m.

Hello,

I have a few questions about licensing options:

We will need 10-12 Developer Licenses. Can we start with the 10 free developers and add one or two developer for workgroup licenses to them?

Or do we need the developer for workgroup starter-pack to add payed licenses?

Is it possible to begin with the 10 free and upgrade to the starter-pack later, if we need support from IBM?

Is it correct that, if we use the starter-pack, we will get a free (included) license for DB2 for Workgroups and WebSphere 8?

Thank you for your help.

Daniel

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Hey mate!! Long time no talk! Ping me and I'll go through it with you - by far the best option for you would most likely be the Developer for Workgroups Starter Pack plus a couple of top ups. But call or email me. Dave

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Dr. Hans-Joachim Pross

JAZZ DEVELOPER (1.1k●44●58) Mar 24 '13, 8:20 a.m.

Hi Daniel,

you can add payed developer for workgroup licenses to the 10 free developers. In this model you have community on jazz.net support for all (12) licenses. If you would prefer having 24x7 IBM support for all (12) licenses, you need need to purchase the RTC Developer for Workgroups Starter Pack. This will "convert" your 10 free in to 10 "paid" with 24x7 support...

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Hajo

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Daniel Reinhardt

Mar 24 '13, 10:39 a.m.

Ok, thank you Hajo. So then we will start with the 10 free licenses and add 2 payed Developer for Workgroup Licenses with community support with the option to switch to 24/7 support in the future by purchasing the starter pack. Information on the Download-Page says: 4 Each valid client license includes a license to run one instance of DB2 Workgroup or Enterprise Edition (excludes z/OS) and one instance of WebSphere Application Server in support of Rational Team Concert. Trials of DB2 and WebSphere Application Server are also available. Express editions of WebSphere Application Server 7.0 and 8.0 are also available for IBM i at no additional charge by ordering Web Enablement for IBM i. See system requirements for details. So if we use at least one payed license, we could use DB2 for Workgroups and WAS for free? Thanks in advance. Daniel

Geoffrey Clemm

FORUM ADMINISTRATOR / FORUM MODERATOR / JAZZ DEVELOPER Mar 25 '13, 12:39 a.m.

I would not recommend using the Derby database for any production work, so if you are only using the free licenses, I would recommend using DB2 Express-C, which you are entitled to use with the free licenses. Tomcat should be fine for 10 or fewer users.

Davyd Norris

Mar 24 '13, 7:38 p.m.

The Free licenses limit you to deployment on Tomcat only, and to either Derby or DB2 Express-C. You do not have entitlement to licenses of DB2 Workgroup or Enterprise Edition, or to WAS. In order to get entitlement to WAS and DB2 Workgroup/Enterprise you have to have valid IBM purchased licenses - basically convert the free licenses to a Developer for Workgroups Starter Pack and you are fine!

Daniel Reinhardt

Mar 25 '13, 3:23 a.m.

Ok, to sum up, we have 2 options: 1. Stick with the 10 free licenses + 2 Developer for Workgroups with DB2 Express-C Tomcat Community Support Get the Developer for Workgroups Starter-Pack + 2 Developer for Workgroups with DB2 for Workgroups / DB2 Enterprise WebSphere Application Server or Tomcat Full 24/7 Support And we could switch from the free licenses to the starter pack at any time. Thank you, Daniel

Simon Eickel

Apr 08 '13, 10:22 a.m.

Hi Geoff, what's the cause you don't recommend using Derby database for production work? Data loss, security or something else? Greetings, Simon

Dr. Hans-Joachim Pross

JAZZ DEVELOPER Apr 08 '13, 10:49 a.m.

Hi Simon, main reason is performance. Look this and this thread.

Marc Towersap

Apr 08 '13, 1:36 p.m.

Derby's not that great a database to use. I find 'real' databases much easier to query. Besides, if you want to use more than 10 users, you can't use derby anyway (at least according to RTC server installation instructions). As for the version of RTC, I'd recommend using the latest release. I have found trying to use the 10 'free' licenses difficult when looking at RTC 4.0, the 10 'free' licenses didn't work at first, took a while for them to fix the 10 free users (there was one out there that I had to hunt for that turned out to be a 10 user 90 day trial version). I wished RTC would support more than the big three expensive db's (db2, oracle, sql server). Not sure if you can use the free version of oracle (oracle database express edition) to support more-than-10 if you are an oracle-database shop.

Marc Towersap

Apr 08 '13, 1:36 p.m.

oh, didn't see that the 10 free users limit you to derby/db2. I guess that answers the oracle question!

Geoffrey Clemm

FORUM ADMINISTRATOR / FORUM MODERATOR / JAZZ DEVELOPER Apr 08 '13, 1:37 p.m.

Yes, performance is the only reason I recommend against using Derby for production use.

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