Share your top 5 pain points using RQM
Pramod Chandoria (2.1k●1●12●20)
| asked Jun 21 '12, 8:26 a.m.
JAZZ DEVELOPER edited Nov 08 '12, 12:37 a.m.
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1. Continually having to log in every so often. I'm on RQM all day, and I continually have to log in. The fact that I keep several tabs open into RQM makes this even more frustrating; I have to re-log in to every tab.
2. Printing is useless. Sure, I can print a test case, but if I try printing out a list of test cases in a test plan, I get too much information and wasted paper. Plus, printing doesn't scale - it takes so long to create a big printout. 3. The concept of test scripts per test case. It took us over a year to realize that we were using RQM wrong - we had multiple scripts per test case, in the assumption that if you ran a TER, the scripts would be strung together. Not so. We were actually missing scripts when we ran the TERs. 4. Test scripts are a nice concept, but they are really hard to create/edit. I'm talking here about the table used for the script steps. Due to point 3 above, I had to do a bunch of editing, copying steps from one script and pasting them into another. This was a serious annoyance. I got into a rhythm, with two browsers open of Tab, Ctrl+C, Atl+Tab, Tab, Ctrl+V. In general, I love how easy scripts are to run but I absolutely HATE editing them. I wish there were some way to use a desktop tool, or something. 5. When I create TERs, I would love to know who ran them last. Sometimes I want to have the same testers run the same tests; sometimes I want to avoid that. Unless I actually do a bunch of clicking and navigating, I can't know who ran the last TER for a particular test case. It takes too long when you're assigning dozens of cases at a time. Comments Hi Michelle, This is very nice feedback, I will follow it up. Thank you Check following workitems
Kevin Ramer
commented Apr 23 '13, 8:02 a.m.
On #1, this can be alleviated by getting the admin for your QM to make the length of the web sessions longer than the default 30 minutes.
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We have been using RQM 3.0.1.1 extensively to help us test our product development. In particular we are using the RQMCommandLineAdapter to automate the running of our tests. From this use case we are finding the following problems:
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Hello Pramod,
1. No screenshot utility when authoring manual tests. 2. Product Structures like a category tree would be more convenient to create in a tree like editor view on testcases for average users of the tool. 3. Test data are bound to a test script which makes it difficult to parametrize the same test with different data. You have 2 test cases A and B and would like to test with the same test script but different data set for A and B. Test data should be bound to TCER and test script should only use variables, in the TCER there would be a mapping from test data columns to test script variables. 4. Test data will not remember which test data rows where already used in tests before. Best Regards, René |
For large execution teams, this is REALLY a problem:
It makes no sense. It should be associated with the execution!
Imagine I have a really large dataset that has to be executed manually and I want to split the work among several executors.
I could than create several Suite Execution Records, set one dataset for each and have several employees working simultaneously.
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Here's 3 I can think of off the top of my head
1. Inability to create dynamic test suites 2. When creating Manual Tests we can't put screenshots in for steps. 3. Inconsistency with RFT adapters Comments Thanks Mike, Could you also provide little more information on #3 Inconsistency with RFT adapters 1
Michael Walker
commented Jul 02 '12, 2:55 a.m.
After talking to the users, the inconsistency was actually with executing RFT scripts using shared resources. Sometimes it would work and other times nothing would happen when they try and execute and there were no error messages. When not using shared resources it worked every time. 1
Mike, Make sure that shared location is accessible from the RQM Server location. If RQM is running as service, the user account used to run the service, the same user should have access to the shared location. 1
When executing from a shared resource, the RFT adapter copies a limited number of files associated with a script. Non-project files, like jars, are expected to already be on the client in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\IBM\RFT\customization" If a script which requires additional libraries is executed, and those libraries are not in the customization folder, you will see the behavior you are describing. We found this to go against the idea of having a "shared resource" so we mount the share on the client and run from RQM as if it is a local project. |
That's it for today... ;) Comments
Aaron Shepherd
commented Jul 18 '12, 10:09 a.m.
Re #3: RQM 4.0 added support for specifying additional logs/attachments for execution results generated by the command line adapter. An enhancement request has been submitted to implement a similar solution for the RFT adapter, but I do not know when or if it will be added. |
Overall RAM V4 is quite nicer than V3. Besides what other expertes mentioned, I would like to dream the following features: 1) Allow dynamic query of test artifacts like what we can do with RTC work items by providing certain values of certain attributes on the fly. 2) Have "RQM client" (eclipse and Visual studio based) in the same way as RTC client to also manage test artifact creation, update, execution and query etc. 3) There can be a "Review" and "Approval" status attributes for test artifacts so that we can easily tell which test artifacts have been reviewed or approved. If not, it would show current status (Pending, In Progress, Not Opened, etc) Currently we have to open the test artifacts to see the information in the formal review section, unless there is this kind of query I don't know.
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1 - editing test scripts is a pain. We find it easier to create test scripts in excel and then import them instead of using the current editor. 2 - auto generation of manual test scripts from description. Needs to be improved to make it easier to separate steps and add expected column in the scripts. Define a nice interface or way to write the description so conversion is better. 3 - provide ability to tie the execution of RQM test cases(?) back to work items. There are references but if a test case is passed, the total time it took to execute (through all the runs) and results should be fed back and update a linked work item (task or defect). Eliminates the need for a user to go into CCM and manual update that information. |
Following features can be incorporate in RQM
1) exporting of Test Case in Word document
2) If any requirement change , status of linked test case need to be suspect automatically. Requirement Reconcillation feature is there but it is not automated.
3) Versioning of Test Artifacts as other ALM tools offering this feature in market.
4) customization jazz login page for e.g. to textual change in JTS Login Page, client logo etc.
5) Reporting can be imnproved. |
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Hi,
1.Test reporting is biggest challenge, creating custom reports on diff attributes there is no easy way. This is posing to be a show stopper to adopt RQM across group.
2.Test case execution when done individually in test suite, there is no way to filter already executed test cases nor any filters
3.Same test case can be added multiple times in one test suite.when add from selected test cases to be added,user never know that test case is being added more than once, Quality center creates another copy and there are better filters.
4.Getting folks adapt using RQM is very hard to convince especially when its transition from one tool ( QC) to RQM being not as very user friendly.
Is there a way to approve a test suite and by doing so, all the test cases and test scripts under that test suite get approved automatically?
Regards
Harish KN