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Armand Marchesin (61) | asked Jun 03 '08, 3:42 a.m.
We now have some small experience using Jazz/RTC (see : in french
http://www.jazzonstage.net/index.php?q=content/comment-jazz-maide-a-piloter-mon-stage ,
in english http://www.jazzonstage.net/index.php?q=content/how-jazz-helped-me-to-drive-my-internship )
and are convinced of the usefulness of such a tool in a day to day work.
Discussing with our developers about using Jazz/RTC generally ends with some fear of being "too closely tracked" ("flicage" in french).
Others in this community experiencing same sort of reaction ?

Armand Marchesin
ESD/Alcatel-Lucent

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Aaron Cohen (8207851) | answered Jun 03 '08, 6:53 a.m.
JAZZ DEVELOPER
I knew I should have paid attention in my high school French class. For
all those that do not speak French. Here is the Google Translate URL:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jazzonstage.net%2Findex.php%3Fq%3Dcontent%2Fcomment-jazz-maide-a-piloter-mon-stage&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=fr&tl=en

Armand wrote:
We now have some small experience using Jazz/RTC see (in french ) :
http://www.jazzonstage.net/index.php?q=content/comment-jazz-maide-a-piloter-mon-stage
and are convinced of the usefulness of such a tool in a day to day
work.
Discussing with our developers about using Jazz/RTC generally ends
with some fear of being "too closely tracked"
("flicage" in french).
Others in this community experiencing same sort of reaction ?

Armand Marchesin
ESD/Alcatel-Lucent

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sébastien etter (21687) | answered Jun 03 '08, 8:36 a.m.
An english version of this french article will be online tomorrow !

Sbastien Etter
ESD/Alcatel-Lucent

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Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035) | answered Jun 03 '08, 8:48 a.m.
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR / FORUM MODERATOR / JAZZ DEVELOPER
We (the Jazz designers) care deeply about this issue.
In particular, we have tried hard to ensure that the generation of any
tracking information is under control of the individual (in the Eclipse
client, usually via "preferences" in their Eclipse workspace).
For example, the "checkin" operation (which commits changes to the
repository) by default must be explicitly invoked by the user, but there
is a preference the user can chose to set in their workspace to have
every "save" of a file produce a checkin.

Cheers,
Geoff


Armand wrote:
We now have some small experience using Jazz/RTC see (in french ) :
http://www.jazzonstage.net/index.php?q=content/comment-jazz-maide-a-piloter-mon-stage
and are convinced of the usefulness of such a tool in a day to day
work.
Discussing with our developers about using Jazz/RTC generally ends
with some fear of being "too closely tracked"
("flicage" in french).
Others in this community experiencing same sort of reaction ?

Armand Marchesin
ESD/Alcatel-Lucent

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Evan Hughes (2.4k1318) | answered Jun 03 '08, 9:29 a.m.
JAZZ DEVELOPER
Discussing with our developers about using Jazz/RTC generally ends with some fear of being "too closely tracked" ("flicage" in french).
Others in this community experiencing same sort of reaction?


The recorded information is fairly innocuous IMO: how a user changes work items, what a user is working on, what source deliveries they make.

I'm not overly concerned that other people know what I'm doing (or not doing), but I want to know what other people are up to, because their work may have an impact on me. I like being able to see the load of other developers so that I can gauge my productivity, as well as understand how the product will be changing in the short term.

It's worth noting that other tools can be configured to provide similar events - source flow events, work item changes, etc. We aren't providing something new in that respect. Jazz's awareness innovations are more on the integration side of things: it's easier to figure out what's going on, what people are doing in the near future, and the relationship between work items.

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Rafik Jaouani (5.0k16) | answered Jun 03 '08, 10:52 a.m.
JAZZ DEVELOPER
The reports team is also very aware of the issue. notice how jazz does not produce reports with historical data about individual contributors.

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Armand Marchesin (61) | answered Jun 04 '08, 6:01 a.m.
Thanks for all the answers.
I think the issue is actually "culture dependent"; In France people are really concerned that others know, maybe too precisely from their point of view, what there are doing.
And generally they are reluctant to the fact that a "machine" or a "tool" will give a status about the tasks THEY are responsible
for ...
If we want the tool to be well accepted we have to consider the issue seriously and have convincing arguments.

Armand

Aaron, you can forget about french lessons, we have translated the article in english/frenglish ;-)

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