Usability of team planning feature
Hello,
I have been following along with some of the online videos that demonstrate how to perform agile planning. Specifically the process of moving stories from the Release Backlog to a Sprint Backlog and then breaking down the stories into sub-tasks.
The videos look great, but when I attempt to replicate the process, it is not working. For example, I want to break down a user story into tasks. I have the sprint planning view open in the RTC eclipse client. I can right click and add a task, but I want this to be a child of the user story. The online videos say "just hit tab" and I see the task get's indented.
Looks easy enough, but it's just not working. Am I missing something?
I have been following along with some of the online videos that demonstrate how to perform agile planning. Specifically the process of moving stories from the Release Backlog to a Sprint Backlog and then breaking down the stories into sub-tasks.
The videos look great, but when I attempt to replicate the process, it is not working. For example, I want to break down a user story into tasks. I have the sprint planning view open in the RTC eclipse client. I can right click and add a task, but I want this to be a child of the user story. The online videos say "just hit tab" and I see the task get's indented.
Looks easy enough, but it's just not working. Am I missing something?
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Hello,
I have been following along with some of the online videos that demonstrate how to perform agile planning. Specifically the process of moving stories from the Release Backlog to a Sprint Backlog and then breaking down the stories into sub-tasks.
The videos look great, but when I attempt to replicate the process, it is not working. For example, I want to break down a user story into tasks. I have the sprint planning view open in the RTC eclipse client. I can right click and add a task, but I want this to be a child of the user story. The online videos say "just hit tab" and I see the task get's indented.
Looks easy enough, but it's just not working. Am I missing something?
Hi
Once you have completed entering the task info - select the task you want to make a child (it should be selected anyway if you have just completed it) and then hit Tab. This has just worked for me on 2.0.0.2 ifix3 but has been a capability for some time, so should work for you too.
If that does not work - what version of RTC and OS are you on?
Hope that helps
anthony
After playing a bit more, I made progress. It seems the ability to view/create the tree hierarchy can only be done when using certain "View As" modes from the "Planned Items".
For example, if I look at the planned items and select "View As" "Backlog" I don't observer the simplified behavior of using the tab key to "indent" tasks and make them subtasks.
However, if I use the "Team Folders" view, things are more like a tree and I can exercise this behavior.
Does this make sense? Is the functionality only available in certain "View As" views based on assumptions of when I would be using that "View As" way of looking at the backlog?
For example, if I look at the planned items and select "View As" "Backlog" I don't observer the simplified behavior of using the tab key to "indent" tasks and make them subtasks.
However, if I use the "Team Folders" view, things are more like a tree and I can exercise this behavior.
Does this make sense? Is the functionality only available in certain "View As" views based on assumptions of when I would be using that "View As" way of looking at the backlog?
And note that allowing "nesting" a work item via a TAB operation in a
non-nested view would produce some very confusing behavior ... the next
time you refreshed the view, the work item you just nested would
disappear from under its parent, and re-appear somewhere else in that
non-nested view.
So I personally believe that the current design is right, *but* I was
caught by this myself a while back. So arguably, it would be more user
friendly to have the TAB operation in a non-nested view produce a
friendly error message telling the user something like "you must switch
to a hierarchical view mode to use the TAB key to nest work items". I'm
not not sure that I'd want that behavior, so I won't submit a request
for it, but if anyone else out there likes that idea, feel free to do so
(:-).
Cheers,
Geoff
On 6/17/2010 9:36 AM, jlemieux wrote:
non-nested view would produce some very confusing behavior ... the next
time you refreshed the view, the work item you just nested would
disappear from under its parent, and re-appear somewhere else in that
non-nested view.
So I personally believe that the current design is right, *but* I was
caught by this myself a while back. So arguably, it would be more user
friendly to have the TAB operation in a non-nested view produce a
friendly error message telling the user something like "you must switch
to a hierarchical view mode to use the TAB key to nest work items". I'm
not not sure that I'd want that behavior, so I won't submit a request
for it, but if anyone else out there likes that idea, feel free to do so
(:-).
Cheers,
Geoff
On 6/17/2010 9:36 AM, jlemieux wrote:
Yes, that would be a cause. In certain view modes the task hierarchy
is flattened (so that it's easier to rank a backlog with all items in
a single top-down list).