Jazz technical architecture
Hi all,
We are looking into using the various Jazz-based tools at our company. Investigating here at Jazz.net however leads to quite some uncertainty about the compatibility between the different versions. Especially when I see information about a "Rational Team Concert Server 2.0" and at the same time I see that the latest version of the Jazz server is 1.0, I get confused...I always thougt that there is ONE server, the Jazz Team Server, which is used to connect all the tools based on it. I am missing a document that clearly describes what version of the Jazz server to use and what versions of the different tools to integrate them.
Currently we have RTC for i 1.0.1.1. installed on our i5. Questions are:
- My guess is that the server is actually the Jazz Team Server 1.0, as this is the latest final version of Jazz?
- But why is it that RTC 2.0 clients cannot work together with this server? Is there different server for RTC 2.0?
- Is there a difference between a RTC server (as mentioned in some of the documents here) and a Jazz server?
- When using a RTC 2.0 server, can the other tools (Focal Point and Requitements Composer) use this server as well? Or do we have to install a 1.0 server and therefor won't be able to use RTC 2.0?
It would be great if there was some compatibility document which also describes how to integrate these tools.
Thanks,
We are looking into using the various Jazz-based tools at our company. Investigating here at Jazz.net however leads to quite some uncertainty about the compatibility between the different versions. Especially when I see information about a "Rational Team Concert Server 2.0" and at the same time I see that the latest version of the Jazz server is 1.0, I get confused...I always thougt that there is ONE server, the Jazz Team Server, which is used to connect all the tools based on it. I am missing a document that clearly describes what version of the Jazz server to use and what versions of the different tools to integrate them.
Currently we have RTC for i 1.0.1.1. installed on our i5. Questions are:
- My guess is that the server is actually the Jazz Team Server 1.0, as this is the latest final version of Jazz?
- But why is it that RTC 2.0 clients cannot work together with this server? Is there different server for RTC 2.0?
- Is there a difference between a RTC server (as mentioned in some of the documents here) and a Jazz server?
- When using a RTC 2.0 server, can the other tools (Focal Point and Requitements Composer) use this server as well? Or do we have to install a 1.0 server and therefor won't be able to use RTC 2.0?
It would be great if there was some compatibility document which also describes how to integrate these tools.
Thanks,
4 answers
You shouldn't mix version numbers of different products because they
don't follow the same pattern. In your specific case:
RTC 1.0 uses Jazz Server 0.6
RTC 2.0 uses Jazz Server 1.0
You can get into the Jazz Server Admin Console and you will see the
versions.
As far as I know, currently each product includes its own Jazz Server
(although it could be the same version). I think we will have to wait a
little bit to see products installed on an existing Jazz Server as a
bunch of plug-ins.
What you can do is integrate them via connection definitions.
Regards,
Chemi.
ubuchner wrote:
don't follow the same pattern. In your specific case:
RTC 1.0 uses Jazz Server 0.6
RTC 2.0 uses Jazz Server 1.0
You can get into the Jazz Server Admin Console and you will see the
versions.
As far as I know, currently each product includes its own Jazz Server
(although it could be the same version). I think we will have to wait a
little bit to see products installed on an existing Jazz Server as a
bunch of plug-ins.
What you can do is integrate them via connection definitions.
Regards,
Chemi.
ubuchner wrote:
Hi all,
We are looking into using the various Jazz-based tools at our company.
Investigating here at Jazz.net however leads to quite some uncertainty
about the compatibility between the different versions. Especially
when I see information about a "Rational Team Concert Server
2.0" and at the same time I see that the latest version of the
Jazz server is 1.0, I get confused...I always thougt that there is
ONE server, the Jazz Team Server, which is used to connect all the
tools based on it. I am missing a document that clearly describes
what version of the Jazz server to use and what versions of the
different tools to integrate them.
Currently we have RTC for i 1.0.1.1. installed on our i5. Questions
are:
- My guess is that the server is actually the Jazz Team Server 1.0, as
this is the latest final version of Jazz?
- But why is it that RTC 2.0 clients cannot work together with this
server? Is there different server for RTC 2.0?
- Is there a difference between a RTC server (as mentioned in some of
the documents here) and a Jazz server?
- When using a RTC 2.0 server, can the other tools (Focal Point and
Requitements Composer) use this server as well? Or do we have to
install a 1.0 server and therefor won't be able to use RTC 2.0?
It would be great if there was some compatibility document which also
describes how to integrate these tools.
Thanks,
RTC has its own clients and servers.
In general, an RTC N.x client will interoperate with an RTC N.y server.
(So for example, an RTC 2.0.0.1 client will interoperate with an RTC 2.0
server).
There is no versioned entity that is a "Jazz Server" (the term "Jazz
Server" is commonly used to mean any server built with Jazz technology).
There is something called a "Jazz Foundation Server". The Jazz
Foundation Server technology is used by a variety of the Jazz products
(RTC, RQM, RRC).
We decided (in my opinion, unfortunately :-) to give the Jazz Foundation
Server a different version number from the corresponding RTC server. So
the RTC-1.0 server used Jazz Foundation Server 0.6 technology, while the
RTC-2.0 server uses Jazz Foundation Server 1.0 technology.
Note: The motivation for the different version numbering was to indicate
that the Jazz Foundation Server technology used in the RTC-1.0 server
was not yet ready to be widely used as a "generic Jazz server", so
that's why the Jazz Foundation Server for RTC-1.0 was numbered 0.6.
As we unify our jazz servers, I believe we will have to unify the
version numbering, at which point, things will be simpler and I'll be
happier (:-).
Cheers,
Geoff
Chemi wrote:
In general, an RTC N.x client will interoperate with an RTC N.y server.
(So for example, an RTC 2.0.0.1 client will interoperate with an RTC 2.0
server).
There is no versioned entity that is a "Jazz Server" (the term "Jazz
Server" is commonly used to mean any server built with Jazz technology).
There is something called a "Jazz Foundation Server". The Jazz
Foundation Server technology is used by a variety of the Jazz products
(RTC, RQM, RRC).
We decided (in my opinion, unfortunately :-) to give the Jazz Foundation
Server a different version number from the corresponding RTC server. So
the RTC-1.0 server used Jazz Foundation Server 0.6 technology, while the
RTC-2.0 server uses Jazz Foundation Server 1.0 technology.
Note: The motivation for the different version numbering was to indicate
that the Jazz Foundation Server technology used in the RTC-1.0 server
was not yet ready to be widely used as a "generic Jazz server", so
that's why the Jazz Foundation Server for RTC-1.0 was numbered 0.6.
As we unify our jazz servers, I believe we will have to unify the
version numbering, at which point, things will be simpler and I'll be
happier (:-).
Cheers,
Geoff
Chemi wrote:
You shouldn't mix version numbers of different products because they
don't follow the same pattern. In your specific case:
RTC 1.0 uses Jazz Server 0.6
RTC 2.0 uses Jazz Server 1.0
You can get into the Jazz Server Admin Console and you will see the
versions.
As far as I know, currently each product includes its own Jazz Server
(although it could be the same version). I think we will have to wait a
little bit to see products installed on an existing Jazz Server as a
bunch of plug-ins.
What you can do is integrate them via connection definitions.
Regards,
Chemi.
ubuchner wrote:
Hi all,
We are looking into using the various Jazz-based tools at our company.
Investigating here at Jazz.net however leads to quite some uncertainty
about the compatibility between the different versions. Especially
when I see information about a "Rational Team Concert Server
2.0" and at the same time I see that the latest version of the
Jazz server is 1.0, I get confused...I always thougt that there is
ONE server, the Jazz Team Server, which is used to connect all the
tools based on it. I am missing a document that clearly describes
what version of the Jazz server to use and what versions of the
different tools to integrate them.
Currently we have RTC for i 1.0.1.1. installed on our i5. Questions
are:
- My guess is that the server is actually the Jazz Team Server 1.0, as
this is the latest final version of Jazz? - But why is it that RTC 2.0
clients cannot work together with this
server? Is there different server for RTC 2.0? - Is there a difference
between a RTC server (as mentioned in some of
the documents here) and a Jazz server? - When using a RTC 2.0 server,
can the other tools (Focal Point and
Requitements Composer) use this server as well? Or do we have to
install a 1.0 server and therefor won't be able to use RTC 2.0?
It would be great if there was some compatibility document which also
describes how to integrate these tools.
Thanks,
:roll: This strategy of each tool having its own version of a jazz server (call it jazz technology if you wish) seems to just fly in the face of the stated mission. Perhaps I am reading it wrong but it looks to me like you are trying to build a foundation on which all these tools will interoperate. When out of the gate it isn't there it will take forever to bring it back and meanwhile those of us trying to implement it will be confused with all kinds of realease numbers and which tool uses what.
My two cents
Bob Bachmann
My two cents
Bob Bachmann
I have submitted work item 95234 on unification of the various types of
Jazz servers. Please feel free to add comments to that work item (or to
whatever earlier work item it gets duped to (:-).
Cheers,
Geoff
rbachmann wrote:
Jazz servers. Please feel free to add comments to that work item (or to
whatever earlier work item it gets duped to (:-).
Cheers,
Geoff
rbachmann wrote:
:roll: This strategy of each tool having its own version of a jazz
server (call it jazz technology if you wish) seems to just fly in the
face of the stated mission. Perhaps I am reading it wrong but it looks
to me like you are trying to build a foundation on which all these
tools will interoperate. When out of the gate it isn't there it will
take forever to bring it back and meanwhile those of us trying to
implement it will be confused with all kinds of realease numbers and
which tool uses what.
My two cents
Bob Bachmann