Hosted versions of Jazz?
Hey guys,
I know that exact licensing and pricing won't be released until later this year, but can anyone comment about whether that licensing will take into account any companies who wish to offer a hosted version of the Jazz server? Thanks! Eric. |
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extending the previous question a bit... Does the current licensing and future plans allow using the opensource version to (1) offer a hosted service and (2) commercial use (i.e. using it to manage your own software development process for products you sell). If an answer on the newsserver or forum is not possible, is there an email adress from someone at IBM Rational legal I might ask such a question? Thank you! Kind regards, Benjamin Sender wrote on : Hey guys, |
A small but probably quite important point - there is no open source version of RTC. IBM is doing what is being termed "open commercial" development but the software is still IBM copyrighted material.
However, I would also be interested in the licensing implications of offering a hosted service using RTC. I suspect we need to check the click-through license we all ok'ed when we downloaded RTC...that may have some info. Also - I expect more clarification once RTC is formally released as a product. anthony |
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Thank you for pointing that out.
I'll give the click-through license agreement a closer look, I suppose the most important things might be hidden in the legalese somewhere. :) Yes, it slipped my mind that this is only "open commercial" development. I'm still hoping for special licenses if you do educational or open source development with no commerical interest. And cheap licenses if you're a small software shop. But then again, it's IBM Rational, I wouldn't expect them to offer prices like Microsoft... ;-) Kind regards, Benjamin Sender wrote on : A small but probably quite important point - there is no open |
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All is not lost - if you look here:
https://jazz.net/community/research/projects.jsp it talks about making the technology available free-of-charge to universities. I am sure there will be some sort of registration process (perhaps via IBM's Academic programme - which is pretty generous about handing out software, etc anyway). I also seem to recall something about making the software available to open source projects too but can't find a reference to this. anthony |
Benjamin, Eric,
IBM normally does not publish package and price information for a product until the product becomes generally available. We expect Rational Team Concert to be available mid this year. Earlier this year, we did announce that we would be making Rational Team Concert available free of charge for use by academic institutions and qualified open source projects. There was another question in this thread about hosting Rational Team Concert solutions. What did you have in mind? Thanks, John Kellerman Product Manager, Jazz and Eclipse |
There was another question in this thread about hosting Rational Team Concert solutions. What did you have in mind? There are a number of hosted ALM solutions out there (i.e. www.assembla.com and www.cvsdude.com) that offer SVN/CVS for version control and TRAC/bugzilla/homegrown for work item tracking. Those solutions are convenient - particularly for smaller companies - because they are essentially turnkey ALM solutions. The drawback in my mind is that SVN/CVS/TRAC/Bugzilla are all good solutions, but not everyone's cup of tea. I would like to see an offer of commercial solutions like Jazz/Rational Team Concert. I was wondering if you envisioned partners doing this sort of thing with Jazz/Rational Team Concert? A development team would install the RTC client bits as they normally would, but the repository connection that would make would be to a remote service provider. That service provider could offer value-add features like backup, builds, etc, etc. There are some technical and licensing issues related to making this possible I think. For SVN/CVS its not big deal since they are open source products, a hoster can create an instance of them for each customer they sign up and never incur additional licensing costs. I don't know what parts of Jazz/RTC you will make open versus commercial, but let's assume you get a really great experience with the commercial components and that experience is what a service provider would want to offer. In order to leverage the license of those commercial components, a hoster would have to provision multiple customers on a single instance of Jazz/RTC. That would allow a hoster to amortize the cost of the license across multiple users and build a nice profitable business. Of course, doing this would mean that the technology would support multi-tenancy (i.e. customers can't see each other's work). Forgive me, but I'm more familiar with Microsoft solutions, so an analogy would be Microsoft Exchange. It supports multi-tenancy, so a company can offer a hosted version of it by leveraging the cost of 1 Exchange license. Microsoft offers a different type of license for this type of use that is slightly more expensive than a single license, but much less than a license per hosted customer. On the other hand, if Jazz/RTC were really really cheap (or the open experience was really good), then a potential hoster could just fire up an instance of Jazz/RTC for each customer they sign on and still be profitable. All that said, Jazz seems pretty easy to setup and maintain, but the number of SVN/CVS hosters out there made me wonder whether the demand for hosted ALM solutions might be maturing to the point where an integrated solution like Jazz/RTC might be really attractive. Thanks! Eric. |
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