Would a focused "Getting started" forum be useful?

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Please vote and if time allows, add a comment with your thoughts.

+1, could we have a dictionnary too ? I am lost as to what a stream is
versus a workspace versus a delta versus... etc etc.. :)


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Christophe Elek
Serviceability Architect
IBM Software Group - Rational

Seconded ..... I've not new to source control, but I've had the devil of a
time understanding what are Streams, Components, and Projects within
Components

Jazz like many other Software applications has a learning curve and we need to help users to get pass this. Currently the two forums have clearly defined actions which are extending Jazz and everything else. If we are going to have a getting started session, we should define what are getting started activities vs other activities.

"Richard O. Curtis" <rocurtis@us.ibm.com> wrote in
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M4a has the beginnings of some help that addresses at least a few of
these concepts. From the main menu, click Help > Help Contents, then
click Using Rational Team Concert > Managing Source Code in Jazz
Overview of configuration management. You can also search for the
terms of interest, though the weighting of what's returned is a little
uneven at the moment,

Thanks Richard, where do we open defects or feature request ? UA ?
How do we propose content ? (I am thinkng of a 'troubleshooting' section) ?
Should we wiki it soomewhere so people can contrinbute ? Ala open source ?
:D

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Christophe Elek
Serviceability Architect
IBM Software Group - Rational

M4a has the beginnings of some help that addresses at least a few of these concepts. From the main menu, click Help > Help Contents, then click Using Rational Team Concert > Managing Source Code in Jazz > Overview of configuration management. You can also search for the terms of interest, though the weighting of what's returned is a little uneven at the moment,


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Seconded ..... I've not new to source control, but I've had the devil of a time understanding what are Streams, Components, and Projects within Components

Richard O. Curtis wrote:

M4a has the beginnings of some help that addresses at least a few of

This is sort of off-topic, but I think you mean M4D1, right?

Actually, since this is a "Getting started" thread and people new to
Jazz may be confused about our release labeling, we have been using
lowercase letter suffixes (a, b, ...) to indicate a rebuild to fix some
serious bugs. So M4a would be a bugfix release based on M4 with just
fixes for the serious bugs found. Eclipse also uses this naming pattern
for rebuilds (anyone remember Eclipse 3.3M5eh
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-dev/msg07700.html).

Suffixes like D1 (as in M4D1) indicate a "deployment" before the
milestone. This naming scheme and the deployment/migration issues
around it are explained on this wiki:

https://jazz.net/wiki/bin/view/Main/Migration06

The progression of recent build labels looks like this:

....
M3D1
M3
M3a (oops, we need to fix M3!)
M4D1 (we are here - I20071101-2006)
M4 (coming soon)
M4a (hopefully not necessary)
....


Sorry if this sounds pedantic, but I can easily see people getting
confused by our labeling so hopefully this will be more helpful than
annoying. :-)


Chris

You can open a workitem and assign it to the User Assistance category.

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M4a has the beginnings of some help that addresses at least a few of
these concepts. From the main menu, click Help > Help Contents, then
click Using Rational Team Concert > Managing Source Code in Jazz
Overview of configuration management. You can also search for the
terms of interest, though the weighting of what's returned is a little
uneven at the moment,


Thanks Richard, where do we open defects or feature request ? UA ?
How do we propose content ? (I am thinkng of a 'troubleshooting' section)
?
Should we wiki it soomewhere so people can contrinbute ? Ala open source ?
:D

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Christophe Elek
Serviceability Architect
IBM Software Group - Rational

Actually, use the "Documentation - User Assistance" category. It might have changed since Richard posted.

In response to the original question, I think this board would benefit from more organization. Maybe categories like this would be good under jazz.user:

+ Getting started questions (Newbies)

+ Installing, Configuring, and Administering
(Getting the tools installed, configured, and then administering the system)

+ Migrating and Upgrading
(Migrating from other systems or industry tools, upgrading from different versions)

+ General use questions and discussion

Maybe that's too much :-) but I see lots of forums with more useful categories like that.