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Adil Chahid (45524118) | asked Aug 25 '10, 6:00 p.m.
Hi all,
does someone have some kind of roadmap information for the support of version control for InfoSphere DataStage ?
Does IBM intend to bridge that feature with RTC in a near by future?
Our customer is interested to deploy Rational Team Concert in theur IT Department and we're trying to scope all the possible integration with existing products.
Thanks,

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Eitan Shomrai commented Jan 18 '11, 6:47 a.m. | edited Jan 15 '17, 2:40 p.m.

Any update on this subject?
Does anybody think that RTC can manage the workspace of the Inphosphere Datastage Eclipse client?


Kim Soederhamn commented Mar 25 '11, 4:26 a.m. | edited Jan 15 '17, 2:40 p.m.

We have a neumber of people requesting this as well - in particular with the Information Server from IBM InfoSphere - I will update you on our findings. But any comment from anyone would be helpful.


Fahad Javaid commented Nov 02 '16, 1:43 p.m. | edited Jan 15 '17, 2:35 p.m.

Hello,

Did anyone has update on the topic beacuse i am currently struggling with similar kind of integration

Thx

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Sean G Wilbur (87212421) | answered Nov 18 '13, 3:20 p.m.
JAZZ DEVELOPER
edited Nov 19 '13, 12:00 a.m.
  Update for an older questions but this integration is now available.

Source control of InfoSphere DataStage and QualityStage assets


 Support for 3.0.x and 4.0.x support is unconfirmed so ymmv, but it looks promising.

  -Sean

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Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035) | answered Aug 25 '10, 10:34 p.m.
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edited Jan 15 '17, 2:45 p.m.

The purpose of DataStage is to "supports the collection, integration and
transformation of large volumes of data". That doesn't sound like the
kind of data for which version control is appropriate. Could you
describe what use cases you were hoping to have supported?



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Adil Chahid (45524118) | answered Aug 31 '10, 12:09 p.m.
edited Jan 15 '17, 2:45 p.m. by Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035)

we're not talking about the data volumes here but about the ETL configuration schemes.
We'd like to be able to version each ETL Configuration and Scenario's versions.
Please advise,


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Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035) | answered Aug 31 '10, 6:06 p.m.
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edited Jan 15 '17, 2:44 p.m.

In general, RTC is similar to most SCM systems in this regard ... as
long as the information can be persisted in the form of a set of files,
and as long as updates to the information can be read from files, you
can use RTC to version control the information.



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Anthony Kesterton (7.5k7180136) | answered Sep 01 '10, 4:49 p.m.
JAZZ DEVELOPER
edited Jan 15 '17, 2:43 p.m. by Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035)

I have been doing some experimenting with connecting RTC to other products, so while I can't tell you about InfoSphere Datastage directly, at least you can check some things that might help.

1) Check the Eclipse version of Datastage - Eclipse 3.4.2 for RTC 2.0.0.2 is a promising start, Eclipse Rich Client Platform or other IDE's are unlikely to work.

2) Try running RTC's Installation Manager, select the option to install the client on an existing Eclipse instance and point it to your DataStage installation. The Installation Manager is very good at checking all the pre-requisites for RTC. You may need to install other Eclipse plugins to get DataStage to install.

3) Try installing DataStage as an Eclipse plugin. You need to check with the InfoSphere people to see if this can be done.

Once you have RTC installed, check you can still use DataStage correctly, and then check the RTC functionality (open the work items view, connecting to a repository, and adding a file/project to source control is probably a good test.

However, unless Datastage has implemented the Eclipse Team interface, none of the above will help. You need to at least see the File->Team->Share Project... menu item from DataStage to see this.

If none of the above work, but you can still see the files, you can add them to version control via another Eclipse instance (RTC) or use the commandline. Not as nice as from the Datastage UI though.

Finally, please raise this as an enhancement request viaInfoSphere DataStage tech support if it does not work.

Hope that helps

anthony


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Adil Chahid commented Sep 21 '10, 11:45 a.m. | edited Jan 15 '17, 2:39 p.m.

Thanks, Antony, we'll be giving it a try.


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Kim Soederhamn (1.5k24147) | answered May 03 '11, 2:32 a.m.
We have succeeded in installting RTC 1.0 the zipped version into Information Server Manager 8.5 (there eclipse version are a close match)- but we are still looking for confirmation that everything works and that this is supported.
We basicly copied the contents of the RTC 1.0 client zip into the ISM directory and started up eclipse. I have no understanding of the Infosphere tools so anyone out there is more than welcome to join the effort.

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Naveen Arora (3178) | answered Jun 22 '11, 8:50 a.m.
edited Jan 15 '17, 2:37 p.m. by Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035)

Hi Geoff

Is there any integration available for Information Server Manager or DataStage designer 8.5 with RTC 3.0.x or is there any enhancement which has been raised for the same ?
I am looking to version Projects in which artifacts are kept in datastage. These Artifacts are modified on server using Datastage client on a local machine. Versioning is required at Project and artifact level, the artifacts can be jobs, scripts etc. I figured out that we can't use Workspace sharing or command line here since, the modifications are done directly on the server.

Any solution or work around ?

Regards
Naveen


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Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035) | answered Jun 22 '11, 6:24 p.m.
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edited Jan 15 '17, 2:43 p.m.

Hi Naveen,

The RTC source control capability currently will only version files that
are stored in a file system, not data in an arbitrary repository.
Architecturally, RTC source control was originally defined with the idea
of versioning arbitrary persistent data, not just files, but only the
file-based layer has been implemented so far.


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Kim Soederhamn (1.5k24147) | answered Jun 23 '11, 5:02 a.m.
edited Jan 15 '17, 2:42 p.m. by Geoffrey Clemm (30.1k33035)

Hi Naveen, Are you sure these files are not downloaded to local workspace first wen editing using the server manager ? the recommended version control systems to the information server is cvs and rational ClearCase - both these systems using version control on the files in your local eclipse workspace. RTC works the same way. RTC 1.x should be the same eclipse level as datastage 8.5 and I have been told that a real supported integration might be comming up - most likely with rtc 3.0.1 with something called Blueprint.


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Sean G Wilbur (87212421) | answered Nov 18 '13, 8:09 p.m.
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  Not sure where my last post went, wanted to update this old question, this integration is now available.

Source control of InfoSphere DataStage and QualityStage assets


  -Sean

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