Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1

Does anyone know if there is possibility to exchange data between DOORS 9.2 and 8.1.
We are upgrading to version 9.2 but some of our subcontractors continue to use 8.1.
In version 8.1 we used to archive the modules and provide our subcontractors with the dma files.
However 9.2 archives can't be restored in 8.1
SystemAdmin - Fri Feb 19 03:25:45 EST 2010

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
SystemAdmin - Fri Feb 19 03:40:19 EST 2010

Spreadsheet export and import using CSV/TSV formats.

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
SystemAdmin - Fri Feb 19 03:42:36 EST 2010

SystemAdmin - Fri Feb 19 03:40:19 EST 2010
Spreadsheet export and import using CSV/TSV formats.

Pekka,

i have tried that put csv does not include any pictures.

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
SystemAdmin - Fri Feb 19 03:43:22 EST 2010

SystemAdmin - Fri Feb 19 03:40:19 EST 2010
Spreadsheet export and import using CSV/TSV formats.

Pekka,

i have tried that but csv does not include any pictures.

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
ePiallat - Fri Feb 19 04:14:46 EST 2010

There is no way to directly import DOORS vN+1 data into DOORS vN, whatever the DOORS version.

You shall use some external format for the data transfer, and you will always lose some information. (At least, history.)

The actual solution you should use depend on the information you really need to send:
  • Some companies send a word file containing main column and requirement identifier only, and any other attribute in some excel file
  • Some companies send a single word file, with one specific style per attribute.
Both solutions above only requires Word Exporter, and very simple DXL for import.

  • Some companies use import/export based on custom XML format. In this case, you basically send whatever you want. But AFAIK, there is no free solution available, and this kind of tool is difficult (expensive) to develop. There are at least three different tools sold in Europe for this specific purpose.

  • Last but not least, their are also some change management solutions that send only change notes in a neutral format for import into the change workflow of the other party. This is of course the more complete solution because it creates some "contractual" history in place of actual history that can't be transmitted.

- Éric

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
tcapelle - Fri Feb 19 05:29:36 EST 2010

ePiallat - Fri Feb 19 04:14:46 EST 2010
There is no way to directly import DOORS vN+1 data into DOORS vN, whatever the DOORS version.

You shall use some external format for the data transfer, and you will always lose some information. (At least, history.)

The actual solution you should use depend on the information you really need to send:

  • Some companies send a word file containing main column and requirement identifier only, and any other attribute in some excel file
  • Some companies send a single word file, with one specific style per attribute.
Both solutions above only requires Word Exporter, and very simple DXL for import.

  • Some companies use import/export based on custom XML format. In this case, you basically send whatever you want. But AFAIK, there is no free solution available, and this kind of tool is difficult (expensive) to develop. There are at least three different tools sold in Europe for this specific purpose.

  • Last but not least, their are also some change management solutions that send only change notes in a neutral format for import into the change workflow of the other party. This is of course the more complete solution because it creates some "contractual" history in place of actual history that can't be transmitted.

- Éric

As Eric suggests, we (Sodius) have a tool that will let you migrate your information back and forth.

Thomas Capelle
www.dxleditor.com

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
Mathias Mamsch - Fri Feb 19 09:18:53 EST 2010

tcapelle - Fri Feb 19 05:29:36 EST 2010
As Eric suggests, we (Sodius) have a tool that will let you migrate your information back and forth.

Thomas Capelle
www.dxleditor.com

A module restore from DOORS 8.1 and DOORS 9.1 worked for me! I can't believe it... Just archived in DOORS 8.2 and restored in DOORS 9.1 without a problem ...

Anyone noticed the same?

Regards, Mathias

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
Mathias Mamsch - Fri Feb 19 09:22:13 EST 2010

Mathias Mamsch - Fri Feb 19 09:18:53 EST 2010
A module restore from DOORS 8.1 and DOORS 9.1 worked for me! I can't believe it... Just archived in DOORS 8.2 and restored in DOORS 9.1 without a problem ...

Anyone noticed the same?

Regards, Mathias

Argh ... Now I remember - archiving in 8.1 and restoring in 9.1 works but not otherway around. Never mind my "discovery" g ... Mathias

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
SystemAdmin - Mon Mar 29 22:38:13 EDT 2010

Mathias Mamsch - Fri Feb 19 09:22:13 EST 2010
Argh ... Now I remember - archiving in 8.1 and restoring in 9.1 works but not otherway around. Never mind my "discovery" g ... Mathias

We at BAE Systems Australia are using one of the european tools on offer - provided by CCC Systems Engineering - all enquires to ja@ccc-system.ch, please.

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
BirgitSchoenfeld - Tue Aug 03 03:06:26 EDT 2010

Hello all,
the professional services team of IBM Rational in Germany is able to provide a solution which allows data exchange between different versions (e.g. 8.x to 9.x and vice versa). The solution called "IBM Rational DOORS Data Exchange Add-On" (also known as eXchange) was developped for the German automotive industry where the need for data exchange - especially between OEM and suppliers - is tremendous. The "Data Exchange Add-On" does not only transfer data between different DOORS databases (probably having different versions), it also supports a certain data exchange process making sure that data can only be modified in one of the involved databases.

The main features of the "IBM Rational DOORS Data Exchange Add-On" are:

+ Transfer DOORS modules from OEM to (multiple) supplier(s)
+ View-based
+ Allows transfer of write access on dedicated „supplier attributes“
+ Data transfer between different DOORS versions

+ Return feedback from supplier(s) to OEM
+ Feedback either in „supplier attributes“ or in separate DOORS modules

+ Update DOORS modules in both directions
+ Modifications are highlighted when updating

+ Export existing baseline and recreate it in other database
+ Different versions for different suppliers

For more information please contact:

Birgit Schoenfeld
E-Mail: birgit.schoenfeld@de.ibm.com
Phone: +49-521-781-2560
Mobile: +49-170-1895396

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
scs102 - Tue Aug 24 04:43:09 EDT 2010

BirgitSchoenfeld - Tue Aug 03 03:06:26 EDT 2010
Hello all,
the professional services team of IBM Rational in Germany is able to provide a solution which allows data exchange between different versions (e.g. 8.x to 9.x and vice versa). The solution called "IBM Rational DOORS Data Exchange Add-On" (also known as eXchange) was developped for the German automotive industry where the need for data exchange - especially between OEM and suppliers - is tremendous. The "Data Exchange Add-On" does not only transfer data between different DOORS databases (probably having different versions), it also supports a certain data exchange process making sure that data can only be modified in one of the involved databases.

The main features of the "IBM Rational DOORS Data Exchange Add-On" are:

+ Transfer DOORS modules from OEM to (multiple) supplier(s)
+ View-based
+ Allows transfer of write access on dedicated „supplier attributes“
+ Data transfer between different DOORS versions

+ Return feedback from supplier(s) to OEM
+ Feedback either in „supplier attributes“ or in separate DOORS modules

+ Update DOORS modules in both directions
+ Modifications are highlighted when updating

+ Export existing baseline and recreate it in other database
+ Different versions for different suppliers

For more information please contact:

Birgit Schoenfeld
E-Mail: birgit.schoenfeld@de.ibm.com
Phone: +49-521-781-2560
Mobile: +49-170-1895396

Hello,

Are there also dpa/dma file compatibility issues between 8.3 and 8.1, i.e. same 8.x version?

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
TatjanaYeshchenko - Wed Sep 15 10:15:28 EDT 2010

BirgitSchoenfeld - Tue Aug 03 03:06:26 EDT 2010
Hello all,
the professional services team of IBM Rational in Germany is able to provide a solution which allows data exchange between different versions (e.g. 8.x to 9.x and vice versa). The solution called "IBM Rational DOORS Data Exchange Add-On" (also known as eXchange) was developped for the German automotive industry where the need for data exchange - especially between OEM and suppliers - is tremendous. The "Data Exchange Add-On" does not only transfer data between different DOORS databases (probably having different versions), it also supports a certain data exchange process making sure that data can only be modified in one of the involved databases.

The main features of the "IBM Rational DOORS Data Exchange Add-On" are:

+ Transfer DOORS modules from OEM to (multiple) supplier(s)
+ View-based
+ Allows transfer of write access on dedicated „supplier attributes“
+ Data transfer between different DOORS versions

+ Return feedback from supplier(s) to OEM
+ Feedback either in „supplier attributes“ or in separate DOORS modules

+ Update DOORS modules in both directions
+ Modifications are highlighted when updating

+ Export existing baseline and recreate it in other database
+ Different versions for different suppliers

For more information please contact:

Birgit Schoenfeld
E-Mail: birgit.schoenfeld@de.ibm.com
Phone: +49-521-781-2560
Mobile: +49-170-1895396

Hello,

please give me some information about support hotline for eXchange.

I get the message after the import (update of module) that the Creation of some objects is not possible from a file with partial data.

Unfortunately I don't know the cause for this interruption.

Thank you in advance.

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
BirgitSchoenfeld - Fri Oct 01 08:22:29 EDT 2010

TatjanaYeshchenko - Wed Sep 15 10:15:28 EDT 2010
Hello,

please give me some information about support hotline for eXchange.

I get the message after the import (update of module) that the Creation of some objects is not possible from a file with partial data.

Unfortunately I don't know the cause for this interruption.

Thank you in advance.

Hi,

I have been on vac, so sorry for delay.

Registered users of eXchange (customers) can reach our support by email.
Please be so kind to send your request to: DOORSXCH@de.ibm.com or even to me (birgit.schoenfeld@de.ibm.com),
and I will check out with Support and your status.

Best regards, Birgit Schoenfeld

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
BirgitSchoenfeld - Fri Oct 01 08:27:51 EDT 2010

scs102 - Tue Aug 24 04:43:09 EDT 2010
Hello,

Are there also dpa/dma file compatibility issues between 8.3 and 8.1, i.e. same 8.x version?

Hi,

this is a DOORS topic.

dpa/dma files between DOORS versions with the same major number, e. g. 8, are compatible,
so in this case between 8.3 and 8.1, too.

Re: Data exchange between 9.2 and 8.1
Geraldine.Bacharach - Mon Nov 08 12:14:22 EST 2010

BirgitSchoenfeld wrote:
Hi,

I have been on vac, so sorry for delay.

Registered users of eXchange (customers) can reach our support by email.
Please be so kind to send your request to: DOORSXCH@de.ibm.com or even to me (birgit.schoenfeld@de.ibm.com),
and I will check out with Support and your status.

Best regards, Birgit Schoenfeld

Thanks for the information